"Mainly diplomatic or political intelligence, trying to discern intentions. Others went after technical intelligence-how fast an airplane flies or how far a cannon shoots-but that was never my specialty area, you see. I was what you call here a people person. I met with various people and delivered messages and such, then brought the answers back to my station."
"What kind of people?"
Popov wondered about how he should answer, and decided on the truth: "Terrorists, that was what you would call them."
"Oh? Like which ones?"
"Mainly European, but some in the Middle East as well. I have language skills, and I can speak easily with people from various lands."
"Was it hard?" Dr. Killgore asked.
"Not really. We had similar political beliefs, and my country provided them with weapons, training, access to some facilities in the Eastern Bloc. I was as much a travel agent as anything else, and occasionally I would suggest targets for them to attack-as payment for our assistance. you see."
"Did you give them money?" Maclean this time.
"Yes, but not much money. The Soviet Union had only limited hard-currency reserves, and we never paid our agents very much. At least I did not," Popov said.
"So, you sent terrorists out on missions to kill people?" This was from Killgore.
Popov nodded. "Yes. That was often my job. That was," he added. "why Dr. Brightling hired me."
"Oh?" Maclean asked.
Dmitriy wondered how far he could take this one. "Yes. he asked me to do similar things for Horizon Corporation."
"You're the guy who ramrodded the stuff in Europe?"
"I contacted various people and made suggestions which they carried out, yes, and so, yes, I do have some blood on my second hands, I suppose, but one cannot take such matters too seriously, can one? It is business, and it has been my business for some time."
"Well, that's a good thing for you,Dmitriy. That's why you're here," Maclean told him. "John is pretty loyal to his people. You must have done okay."
Popov shrugged. "Perhaps so. He never told me why he wanted these things done, but I gather it was to help his friend Henriksen get the consulting contract for the Sydney- Olympics that I've been watching on TV."
"That's right," Killgore confirmed. "That was very important to us." Might as well watch, the epidemiologist thought, they'll be the last ones.
"But why?"
They hesitated at the direct question. The physician and the engineer looked at each other. Then Killgore spoke.
"Dmitriy, what do you think of the environment?"
"What do you mean? Out here? It is beautiful. You've taught me much with these morning rides, my friends," the Russian answered, choosing his words carefully. "The sky and the air, and the beautiful fields of grass and wheat. I have never appreciated how beautiful the world can be. I suppose that's because I grew up in Moscow." Which had been a hideously filthy city, but they didn't know that.
"Yeah, well, it's not all this way."
"I know that, John. In Russia-well, the State didn't care as you Americans do. They nearly killed all life in the Caspian Sea-where caviar comes from-from chemical poisoning. And there is a place just east of the Urals where our original atomic-bomb research created a wasteland. I haven't seen it, but I have heard of it. The highway signs there tell you to drive very fast to be through the zone of dangerous radiation as quickly as possible."
"Yeah, well, if we're not careful, we might just kill the whole planet," Maclean observed next.
"That would be a crime, like the Hitlerites," Popov said next. "It is nekulturny, the work of uncivilized barbarians. In my room, the tapes and the magazines make this clear."
"What do you think of killing people, Dmitriy?" Killgore asked then.
"That depends on who they are. There are many people who deserve to die for one reason or another. But Western culture has this strange notion that taking life is almost always wrong-you Americans cannot even kill your criminals, murderers and such, without jumping through hoops, as you say here. I find that very curious."
"What about crimes against Nature?" Killgore said, staring off into the distance.
"I do not understand."
"Well, things that hurt the whole planet, killing off whole living species, polluting the land and the sea. What about that?"
"Kirk, that is also a barbaric act, and it should be punished severely. But how do you identify the criminals? Is it the industrialist who gives the order and makes the profit from it? Or is it the worker who takes his wages and does what he is told?"
"What did they say at Nuremberg?" Killgore said next.
"The war-crimes trial, you mean? It was decided that following orders is not a defense." Not a concept he'd been taught to consider in the KGB Academy, where he'd learned that the State Was Always Right.
"Right," the epidemiologist agreed. "But you know. nobody ever went after Harry Truman for bombing Hiroshima."