We found ourselves in a medium-sized tavern, with whitewashed walls and tables and chairs scattered round a rush-strewn floor. The woman put her hands on her hips and faced us. 'Did you give money to those beggars?' she asked. 'They'll be hanging round half the day. They usually piss off to Smithfield about this time. I don't grudge the poor caitiffs the shelter of the old chapel but I don't want them pestering my customers.'
I had had enough of her scolding. 'Do you work here?' I asked pointedly.
'I own the place. Ethel Bunce, widow and licencee of this parish, at your service,' she added sardonically.
'Oh.'
'Francis!' she called loudly. A serving hatch in the wall opened, and a short, fat man with a bald head and a round piggy face peered out. He too wore an apron, and behind him I saw a large bucket where wooden mugs floated in scummy water.
'Yes, chick?' He caught sight of us, and immediately his eyes narrowed and he looked worried.
'These gents want a word. What have you been up to?' She laughed as she said this, but her look at us was as uneasy as the fat man's.
Lockley emerged through a side door. He was a little barrel of a man, a powerful physique run to seed, but still strong-looking. I wondered if that was why Mistress Bunce had taken him in. A widow might inherit a tavern licence, but would need a man to deal with difficult customers. Yet there was something loving in the look she gave Lockley as he sat on a stool beside her. I made a guess at why they seemed worried; they were living in sin.
'We are not interested in the domestic arrangements between you,' I said gently. 'We have come from the King's assistant coroner. We seek the whereabouts of the former Brother Goddard of Westminster Abbey.'
The reactions of the pair to the news were quite different. Mistress Bunce looked relieved that no one was after them over their sleeping arrangements. Lockley, though, narrowed his eyes again and pressed his lips together. I saw from the rise and fall of his chest that he was breathing hard. 'That old shit Goddard?' he asked.
'You did not like him?'
'Treated me like dirt. Because my father was a potman. As I am now,' he added, glancing up at the widow with a look that was hard to read. She laid a strong hand over his.
'You're more to me than that, sweet.'
I wondered whether to ask her to leave but guessed that anything Lockley told us she would get out of him later. 'You worked under Goddard in the lay infirmary, I believe,' I asked him. 'Helping him with sick people who came from Westminster town seeking help.'
Mistress Bunce's eyes narrowed. 'You seem to know a lot about Francis.'
'We are questioning the former monks who worked with Goddard. We have spoken with young Master Cantrell, and with the dean.'
He looked suddenly worried. 'What did they have to say?' he asked.
'That is confidential,' I said.
Lockley laughed, nervously. 'Young Charlie, eh? He had a bad time with Goddard.'
'Have you any idea where Dr Goddard may be now?'
Lockley shook his head. 'Haven't seen him since the day we all left the abbey. Nor wanted to.'
'You cannot remember where he went?'
'Didn't even say goodbye. Just told me to clear out the last patients and hand the key to the Treasurer as I was bid.' He hesitated. 'May I ask why you are seeking him?'
'We are investigating a death.'
'Whose?' he asked. His whole body seemed to tense again.
'I may not say. But tell me, do you know anything about Dr Goddard using a drug called dwale?' One of Lockley's hands was resting on the table and he clenched it.
'I knew Dr Goddard used something to make his patients sleep if he had to operate on them in the monks' infirmary. But he wouldn't have wasted anything like that on the patients in the lay infirmary.' He shrugged. 'He wasn't much interested in what went on there. He'd come in and look at people, give them a bit of advice or some herbs, set the odd broken bone. But mostly he left their care to me.' He looked me in the eye as he told the story, he had himself under control now.
I nodded slowly. 'Tell me more about what you thought of Dr Goddard.'
'He had a high opinion of himself. Though I daresay doctors are all alike in that. He could be very sharp and rude.' He leaned forward, smiling confidentially. 'He had a huge great mole on one side of his nose. Biggest I've ever seen. If anyone looked at it, he'd go red and try to cover it with his hand. It was a way to get a rise out of him if you dared, but he'd always be in a foul mood afterwards.' He looked at Barak and grinned anxiously. I knew he was keeping something back, but I had no evidence, nothing to confront him with.
'What was your background?' Barak asked.
'I was an apprentice to a barber-surgeon before I went to Westminster. Ten years I was there, then I worked with a barber-surgeon again afterwards.'
'I see,' I said. 'Young Cantrell did not like Goddard either.' I looked at him, remembering his worried look when I said we had spoken to Cantrell and Dean Benson. But he had regained some confidence now.